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		<title>Sermon: Everyone Has a Story, Judges 4</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This weeks Old Testament reading (Proper 28A/Ordinary 33A/Pentecost +22) is Judges 4:1-7. Unfortunately, the reading stops before the story really gets going and gets good. You really should read the entire chapter, verses 1-24. I wrote this sermon eight or nine years ago, and it is still one of my favorites. Probably because it has <a href='http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2011/11/09/a-sermon-on-an-unlikely-couple/'>[...]</a><p><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2011/11/09/a-sermon-on-an-unlikely-couple/">Sermon: Everyone Has a Story, Judges 4</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com">Shawna R. B. Atteberry</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p style="text-align: left;" align="center">This weeks <a href="http://www.textweek.com/yeara/propera28.htm">Old Testament reading (Proper 28A/Ordinary 33A/Pentecost +22) is Judges 4:1-7</a>. Unfortunately, the reading stops before the story really gets going and gets good. You really should read the <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=187865195">entire chapter, verses 1-24</a>. I wrote this sermon eight or nine years ago, and it is still one of my favorites. Probably because it has some of my favorite people in the Bible.</p>
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<h1 align="center"><span style="color: #993366;">Everyone Has a Story</span><em><strong></strong></em></h1>
<p align="center"><a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=23810821">Judges 4-5</a></p>
<p><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/shawnari/deborahdore.gif" alt="" width="328" height="414" align="right" />One of my absolutely favorite news segments was &#8220;Everybody Has a Story.&#8221; Journalist Steve Hartman had this absolutely cockamamie idea that a person didn&#8217;t need to be rich, or famous, or even a celebrity to have a story. He believed that ordinary people, living ordinary lives, in ordinary places had stories that the rest of us would want to hear and might even help us live our own little, ordinary lives. Even Steve admitted he wasn&#8217;t sure his idea would work. But for years Steve Hartman proved that everybody has a story. One of things I loved about this news segment is that Steve found some of the most unlikely people, in the most unlikely places, who have lived through and done some of the most unlikely things.</p>
<p>His stories reminded me a lot of the stories I read in the Bible. Ordinary people, doing ordinary things, living ordinary lives. But instead of a pesky reporter dropping in, a pesky God decides to show up and change those ordinary lives forever. That&#8217;s what happened in Judges 4.</p>
<h1><span style="color: #993366;">An Unlikely Couple</span></h1>
<p>The first three verses of this chapter are typical for the book of Judges. In the book of Judges Israel is caught in a very destructive cycle. They decide to worship the gods around them instead of Yahweh&#8211;the God who brought them out of Egypt. God then gives them over to an enemy who oppresses them for a while&#8211;in this case 20 years. Then the people come to their senses and cry out to God who then raises a judge to deliver them from their oppressors. There is much rejoicing and the people obey God during the life of that judge and then the cycle starts all over again. This is called a downward spiral because not only does the same cycle keep happening, but each time it gets worse.</p>
<p>When we come to verse 4 we read: &#8220;At that time Deborah, a prophetess, wife of Lappidoth, was judging Israel.&#8221; Now we come to the first twist in this story&#8211;the judge is not a man&#8211;it&#8217;s a woman. We have an unlikely judge&#8211;she&#8217;s a wife and probably a mother. And why is she the judge and not her husband? Because God called her and not him. Yes, it&#8217;s as simple as that. And what about Lappidoth? I always wonder about this man. He&#8217;s only mentioned once in the Bible, but he intrigues me. Since Deborah is judging Israel at the palm of Deborah and fulfilling her calling as a prophet, I&#8217;m assuming he&#8217;s okay with the arrangement. And yes, in our day and age, we go, &#8220;Well duh, yes, she can work if she wants to.&#8221; Back then, in that day and age, Deborah should have been home being a wife and mother&#8211;cooking, cleaning, taking care of the kids. The place she should not have been was out in public, resolving disputes among the people. That was man&#8217;s work. That should have been what Lappidoth was doing. But this unlikely couple obeyed God&#8217;s rather strange calling on their lives&#8211;God called Deborah to be a prophet and judge, and both she and Lappidoth obeyed God&#8217;s calling.</p>
<p>So, not only Deborah, but Deborah and Lappidoth are the first unlikely people we meet in this story. Now we will meet our next unlikely person.</p>
<h1><span style="color: #993366;">An Unlikely General</span></h1>
<p>Barak enters our story next. H&#8217;s a general, commander of the army of Israel. Deborah tells him that God has spoken and wants Barak to take an army and move against Israel&#8217;s oppressor: Sisera. Up to this point the men God called to judge Israel&#8217;s enemies have been gung-ho about going and wreaking a little havoc. God told them to go and destroy Israel&#8217;s enemies, and they went and destroyed Israel&#8217;s enemies in some very creative ways with no cajoling or prodding. So when Deborah calls Barak and tells him God&#8217;s ready to move against Sisera, we expect Barak to yell, &#8220;Yippee, it&#8217;s about time!&#8221; and go. But that&#8217;s not what he does. Barak puts a condition on his obedience: Deborah must go with him. The general wants a woman to accompany him in battle. And this woman, this married women who probably had children, says, yes. If that&#8217;s what it takes to do God&#8217;s will then she will go, so that the enemy can be defeated.</p>
<p>But Barak&#8217;s condition costs him: he will not be the one to kill Sisera. In another irony of this story, a woman will kill Sisera. Of course, at this point, we think the woman will be Deborah.</p>
<p>Again Lappidoth impresses me. No, he&#8217;s not mentioned in these verses. But his wife is going into war with Barak, and he doesn&#8217;t forbid her. In all likelihood, he is probably one of the 10,000 who go into battle. Again this unlikely couple obey God, at what could be great cost to them.</p>
<p>Although Barak wanted assurance of God&#8217;s presence, and it did cost him the full glory of the battle, I don&#8217;t think we should be too hard on him. Remember Deborah was a prophet&#8211;she was God&#8217;s representative on earth, speaking the words God gave her. I think if I was Barak, I might want her to come along too; I might want that assurance of God&#8217;s presence that Deborah, not only gave to Barak, but gave to the soldiers as well.</p>
<p>So we have an unlikely couple and an unlikely general that God is using to accomplish her plans. Now we are coming to the most unlikely person in the whole story.</p>
<h1><span style="color: #993366;">An Unlikely Ally</span></h1>
<p>Word reaches Sisera that Barak and his troops are on the move, and Sisera rallies his army to meet them, thinking that he has pretty much won this battle. But God had other plans. Deborah gives the command for the troops to march and Barak leads the way. As they are moving toward each other, God throws Sisera&#8217;s army into a panic. I like the account of the battle given in Judges 5:20-21: &#8220;The stars fought from heaven, from their courses they fought against Sisera. The torrent Kishon swept them away, the onrushing torrent, the torrent Kishon. March on, my soul, with might!&#8221; God once again fought for her people and delivered them from their enemies. In the middle of the fight Sisera sees that things are not going his way, and I&#8217;m thinking that what he does isn&#8217;t something generals of armies should do: he runs. And this chicken is about to run into a fox.</p>
<p>Back in verse Judges 4:11 we have a verse that appears out of nowhere about a man living in the area. It seems like an odd verse to insert between Deborah&#8217;s command to Barak and the preparations to march to war. In this verse we learn about Heber, a man descended from Moses&#8217; father-in-law, who lives in the area. Now in verse 17 we find out why that piece of information appeared out of nowhere. Sisera runs to the place where Heber and his wife, Jael, are staying. At this point in the story it appears that Sisera is home free. There was peace between Heber and King Jabin&#8211;Sisera&#8217;s boss. For all appearances he should be safe. And Jael plays the perfect hostess&#8230;for a while. She invites him in, gives him milk to drink when he asked for water. Then she tucked him in with a rug for a nice nap. But instead of standing guard at the tent as Sisera ordered her, Jael has other plans. Deborah will not be the woman who defeats Sisera&#8211;Jael is. And she is a more unlikely person for the job than Deborah. Jael is not only a woman. She is a Gentile woman. She is not from one of the tribes of Israel. God will use this Gentile woman to deliver Israel from their oppressor. Instead of standing guard and deflecting Israel&#8217;s soldiers when they come looking for Sisera, Jael sneaks to where he&#8217;s sleeping and kills him. Jael is waiting at the entrance to the tent when Barak comes, and she leads him inside the tent, and shows him his enemy, dead. All that Deborah had spoken happened. Israel defeated the army of Sisera, and Sisera had been killed by a woman. After the victory song of chapter 5, we read that Israel had rest for 40 years.</p>
<p>Using a very unlikely combination of people: a wife and mother, a hesitant general, and a Gentile woman, God delivered Israel from their enemies. When God came these people were living their normal, everyday lives. They didn&#8217;t think anything was going to change, and they sure didn&#8217;t think God would use them to make those changes. But God did.</p>
<h1><span style="color: #993366;">An Unlikely People</span></h1>
<p>And I&#8217;m not sure which should surprise us more: that God uses ordinary people to do His will, or that God gets mixed up with us unpredictable, insecure, hesitant humans at all. Even with Barak&#8217;s hesitation and insistence on Deborah coming to battle with him, God still gets mixed up in the lives of these ordinary people, with foibles and quirks, and uses them to accomplish her plans for her people.</p>
<p>I bet Steve Hartman would give his eyeteeth to be able to tell this story on the evening news. You see what Steve doesn&#8217;t know is that there is a reason why everyone has a story. It&#8217;s because God made everyone. We all have stories because we are made in God&#8217;s image. But it gets better than that. God comes to us and wants be a part of our stories. The God who is Creator and Ruler of all wants to take part in our ordinary, mundane, messy lives. Then she wants to use our lives and our stories to build her kingdom and accomplish her plans, not only for the Church, but for the world. But don&#8217;t freak out&#8211;God doesn&#8217;t send us out alone, just like Barak didn&#8217;t go out alone. God goes with us, so that everyone we encounter can be a part of her story&#8211;just like we are.</p>
<p>So as you live your ordinary life this week, remember all those ordinary people you see have stories. And God wants to be a part of those stories.</p>
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		<title>Why I Keep Harping on Biblical Women, Equality, &amp; Women Working</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s a reason why I keep harping on the subjects I do. There&#8217;s a reason I&#8217;m writing a book called Career Women of the Bible. And there&#8217;s a reason I wrote the E-book, Women Who Didn&#8217;t Shut Up &#38; Sit Down. There is a reason why I keep blogging about women in the Bible who <a href='http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2011/10/05/why-i-keep-harping-on-biblical-women-equality-women-working/'>[...]</a><p><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2011/10/05/why-i-keep-harping-on-biblical-women-equality-women-working/">Why I Keep Harping on Biblical Women, Equality, &#038; Women Working</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com">Shawna R. B. Atteberry</a></p>
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<p>There&#8217;s a reason why I keep harping on the subjects I do. There&#8217;s a reason I&#8217;m writing a book called <a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/career-women-of-the-bible-series/"><em>Career Women of the Bible</em></a>. And there&#8217;s a reason I wrote the E-book, <a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/store/"><em>Women Who Didn&#8217;t Shut Up &amp; Sit Down</em></a>. There is a reason why I keep blogging about women in the Bible who were:</p>
<ul>
<li>Religious leaders</li>
<li>Secular leaders</li>
<li>Business women</li>
<li>Merchants</li>
<li>Entrepenuers</li>
</ul>
<p>It&#8217;s because I keep reading things like this:</p>
<blockquote><p>I believed the “Beautiful Girlhood” spiel. I did it everything the “right way”. I stayed at home, I submitted to my father, I skipped college, I prepared to be my husband’s helpmeet, and I regret it. I had years of my life go by where I was little more than an indentured servant to my parents. My husband and I were forced into thousands of dollars of debt working for an abusive employer that we could have thumbed our nose at if I had been able to get a job. While I was without the commitments of marriage and children, I could have easily gained an education that could have served me and my husband well in early marriage. All those years living as a quiet submissive housekeeper, I could have been discovering interests, and developing as a person.</p>
<p style="text-align: right;">–<a href="http://rethinkingvisionforum.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/vision-forum-daughters-college-regret/#more-789">Why I Wish I Had Gone to College by Young Mom</a></p>
</blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s because I keep reading about lies like this on the <a href="http://arewomenhuman.wordpress.com/2011/05/26/damage-control-at-covenant-life-church-pt-1/">Are Women Really Human? blog</a>:</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;">YOUNG LADIES MUST PREPARE TO BE HOMEMAKERS…Prepare to Marry Young If God’s Will; Don’t accept cultural norms and practices…Don’t Assume College or Career:</p>
<ol>
<li>Be aware of serving the cultural idol of education and career.</li>
<li>Be willing to lay aside the pursuit of higher education if marriage comes early.</li>
<li>Be willing to lay aside a career when married.</li>
<li>Think of a non-paying (but very rewarding and important) “career” in the home related to your husband and children.</li>
<li>If unmarried, consider a “feminine” vocation or job that will benefit family later.</li>
</ol>
<p>Detwiler further divides reasons married women work outside the home into “necessary” reasons and “wordly” reasons. The only “necessary” reasons are a husband’s unemployment or disability, or to save up money or pay off debts. The clear implication is that any woman who works outside of the home when her husband is also employed is sinning if her work is not indispensable to family finances. Meanwhile, worldly reasons for a woman to work outside of the home include:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">6) Identity and fulfillment primarily in work outside the home. Not content with <strong>obscurity</strong> of being a wife, mother and homemaker… [my emphasis] 8 ) Husband and wife may think she can work outside home with little or no harm to the marriage and family. 9) Realization by a woman that it may be easier to work outside the home than in the home as a wife, mother and homemaker.</p>
<p>There’s an obvious disdain here for women and especially mothers who have outside employment. Detwiler clearly implies that such women are lazy, self-absorbed, and unwise parents. He clearly associates a woman working outside the home with “harm” to her marriage and family. He states that there is “lack of biblical support” for women to work full-time outside of the home.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s because The Council for the so-called &#8220;Biblical&#8221; Manhood and Womanhood just released a curriculum for kids and teens with this warped view of the creation stories in Genesis:</p>
<blockquote><p>While God created men to be generally oriented toward work, God created women to be generally oriented towards relationships of helpfulness and companionship.</p>
<p>This is God’s good design.</p>
<p>A design for male headship — leading, protecting, and providing for the woman.</p>
<p>A design for female submission — submitting to and helping the man; a companion-helper ‘fit for him.’</p>
<p>Some will be doubtful … even upset by this teaching of God’s good design for men and women.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes I am upset about this. But not because it’s Godde’s good design. I’m upset because it’s one big, fat lie. If you want to see a drastically different way to interpret these same verses read this: <a href="../2010/04/21/does-it-really-mean-helpmate/">Does It Really Mean Helpmate?</a></p>
<p>So yes, I keep harping on Women, the Bible, and Equality.</p>
<h1>Women&#8217;s &amp; Men&#8217;s Work</h1>
<p>Of course what these people fail to tell you is that not only is there a &#8220;lack of biblical support&#8221; for women outside of the home, there is also a lack of support for men working outside of the home in the Bible. That&#8217;s because EVERYONE worked at home during biblical times. In ancient agrarian societies the home was a self-sufficient farm where everyone worked to make sure the family had shelter, clothing, and food. Few people left the home to &#8220;go to work.&#8221; The same was true for merchants at that time. If you lived in a town or city and sold merchandise, you lived above or next to your business, and the whole family worked in that business. The only people who worked away from home were traders and soldiers. That&#8217;s it. Everyone else worked at home.</p>
<p>The biblical model of family was not destroyed when women started working outside of the home. The biblical model of family was broken when men started working outside of the home at the beginning of the Industrial Age.</p>
<p>Not only did women work to financially support their families: women&#8217;s work drove ancient economy. Women&#8217;s work&#8211;spinning and weaving&#8211;making textiles to trade fueled the ancient economy, so different tribes could trade for precious metals and exotic foods. In <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Womens-Work-First-Years-Society/dp/0393313484/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1306874023&amp;sr=8-1"><em>Women&#8217;s Work: The First 20,000 Years</em></a>, Elizabeth Wayland Barber shows the monetary value of women&#8217;s work for their families. She also shows the power and autonomy women had as textile makers and traders in the Middle East. Women have always worked to financially provide for their families. They&#8217;ve also made, bought and traded. It&#8217;s nothing new. What is new is this ridiculous modern idea that man goes to work, leaving his family behind for the better part of the day, then comes back home with money. That&#8217;s new. Not women working. (<a href="http://powerscourt.blogspot.com/2011/08/womens-orientation-to-work-part-1.html">For an excellent overview of the work women did do in the Bible to support their families and bring in money see Sunzanne McCarthy&#8217;s &#8220;Women&#8217;s Orientation to Work&#8221; blog series, starting here.</a>)</p>
<p>This is a totally foreign concept to most people although it describes well over 90% of our history. (History did not begin with the Industrial Age, the Victorian Era, or 1950s suburbia.)</p>
<h1>What the Bible Really Says</h1>
<p><span id="wylio-flickr-image-315600230" style="display: block; line-height: 15px; width: 382px; padding: 0; margin: 0 10px; position: relative; float: left;"><img style="padding: 0; margin: 0; border: none;" title="Three Wise Women - photo by: Dale Gillard, Source: Flickr, found with Wylio.com" src="http://img.wylio.com/flickr/129034/382/315600230" alt="Three Wise Women" width="382" height="349" /><span id="wylio-flickr-credits-315600230" class="wylio-credits" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; padding: 0; margin: 0; width: 100%; color: #aaaaaa; background: #ffffff; float: left; clear: both; font-size: 11px; font-style: italic;"><span class="photoby" style="padding: 2px; margin: 0;"><span style="display: block; float: left; margin: 0;">photo © 2006 <a style="padding: 0; margin: 0; color: #aaaaaa; text-decoration: underline;" title="click to visit the Flickr profile page for Dale Gillard" href="http://www.flickr.com/people/dalegillard/" target="_blank">Dale Gillard</a> | <a style="padding: 0; margin: 0; color: #aaaaaa; text-decoration: underline;" title="get more information about the photo 'Three Wise Women'" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/65032901@N00/315600230" target="_blank">more info </a></span><span style="display: block; float: right; margin-left: 5px;"><strong style="margin: 0;">(via: <a style="padding: 0; margin: 0; color: #aaaaaa; text-decoration: underline;" title="free pictures" href="http://www.wylio.com" target="_blank">Wylio</a>)</strong></span></span></span></span>Women working in the Bible, bringing home the bacon, and being leaders is also a foreign concept to most people. Again and again I heard from readers who were amazed at what women did in the Bible after reading <em>Women Who Didn&#8217;t Shut Up &amp; Sit Down</em>. They were amazed to find women judges, military leaders, and women who wouldn&#8217;t take no for an answer from Moses, Jesus, or Godde. They were amazed to find a woman negotiating with a general on behalf of her city, and most of them were flabbergasted that Tamar was praised for disguising herself as a prostitute to insure she would have children for her husband&#8217;s family through her father-in-law.</p>
<p>They were amazed to find out that the quiet and submissive woman the women in the Bible were supposed to be is nothing but a caricature. It&#8217;s what men who have interpreted the Bible for centuries want women to be. It&#8217;s not what Godde created women to be.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s why I keep doing what I do.</p>
<h2 style="text-align: center;">The time for lies is over.</h2>
<h2 style="text-align: center;">That&#8217;s not what the Bible says.</h2>
<h2 style="text-align: center;">It never has been. It never will be.</h2>
<h1>Women Who Didn&#8217;t Shut Up &amp; Sit Down Podcasts</h1>
<p>Want to hear about what four of my readers said about the women they met in the Bible in <em><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/store/women-who-didnt-shut-up-sit-down/">Women Who Didn&#8217;t Shut Up &amp; Sit Down</a>? </em>Here is what we talked about in these four 30 minute podcasts:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2011/09/26/paul-was-not-evil-misogynist-podcast-mark-mattison/">Mark Mattison and I talk about how passages in 1 Corinthians are interpreted to keep women silent in church and submissive to their husbands</a>. We talked about the many different ways these verses can be interpreted that make women equal with their husbands and equals in church, preaching and praying in their congregations. How many people know about these different interpretations? Not many.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2011/09/12/biblical-women-doing-what-needs-to-be-done-podcast-catherine-caine/">Catherine Caine and I talk about how the traditional Christian views affect people who aren&#8217;t Christians</a>. Catherine is a secular humanist in Australia, and she talks about how the traditional view of women can influence business as usual on an unconscious level. She also loved how earthy and action-oriented the women in the Bible were. She loved how they made decisions and did what needed to be done without any drama or hand-wringing.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2011/10/03/reasons-women-leave-church-podcast-excerpt-sandi-amorim/">Sandi Amorin talks about her experience growing up in the Catholic Church and how her questions about &#8220;Where are all the women in the Bible?&#8221; went unanswered</a>. Sandi was amazed that she had never heard about most of these women in church. Sadly that&#8217;s not unusual. Women in the Bible who go against the &#8220;traditional&#8221; view of women are ignored and marginalized. We don&#8217;t hear their stories because they were anything but submissive and quiet.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2011/09/19/women-bible-submission-abuse-podcast-excerpt-lainie-petersen/">Lainie Petersen and I talk about how the lie that Godde made women to be quiet and submissive leads to the abuses we see throughout the church today</a>: domestic abuse, sexual abuse, and the reality that churches are much more likely to blame female and children victims than to hold male abusers accountable for their actions. The consequences of this horrible theology are brutal, and no one in the church likes to talk about it, much less do anything about it.</p>
<h1><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/wwdsusd-cover.png"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1643" title="wwdsusd cover" src="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/wwdsusd-cover-300x177.png" alt="" width="300" height="177" /></a>Stop listening to the lies</h1>
<h2>Most of all: don&#8217;t believe the lies anymore.</h2>
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<li>Women were made in the image of Godde.</li>
<li>Godde calls women to be both religious and secular leaders.</li>
<li>Godly women have always worked and financially supported their families.</li>
<li>In the Bible women not only worked&#8211;they had careers too.</li>
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		<title>Paul Was Not an Evil Misogynist: Podcast with Mark Mattison</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 15:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[photo © 2007 Francois Bester &#124; more info (via: Wylio)Earl A lot of people blame Paul when part of the Christian Church claims that man is the head of the women and the head of the home , and, therefore, cannot hold leadership positions in the church. They say Paul said that: Men are the <a href='http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2011/09/26/paul-was-not-evil-misogynist-podcast-mark-mattison/'>[...]</a><p><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2011/09/26/paul-was-not-evil-misogynist-podcast-mark-mattison/">Paul Was Not an Evil Misogynist: Podcast with Mark Mattison</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com">Shawna R. B. Atteberry</a></p>
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<p>A lot of people blame Paul when part of the Christian Church claims that man is the head of the women and the head of the home , and, therefore, cannot hold leadership positions in the church. They say Paul said that:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Men are the head of women &amp; the head of the home.<br />
Paul told women to be quiet in church.<br />
Paul told women they couldn&#8217;t teach men.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 90px;">Too bad for them Paul didn&#8217;t say all these things. Paul&#8217;s words are <em><strong>interpreted</strong></em> to say these things, but that&#8217;s not what Paul actually said.</p>
<p>Earlier this year I posted on <a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2011/05/12/women-who-didnt-shut-up-sit-down-paul-was-not-an-evil-misogynist/">why the Apostle Paul was not the evil misogynist</a> he&#8217;s cracked up to be. I looked at the verses in 1 Corinthians 11 that are normally used to keep women subordinated to men, and out of leadership positions, and showed that the passage can be translated to empower women instead of marginalize them. My friend, Mark Mattison, <a href="http://godde.wordpress.com/2011/05/15/because-of-the-angels/">posted on the same subject at The Christian Godde Project</a> over the weekend. In this podcast on <em>Women Who Didn&#8217;t Shut Up &amp; Sit Down</em>, we talked about Paul&#8217;s correspondence with the Corinthian church and why a few verses cannot be taken out of either letter to be what Godde meant for all time. Here are the verses we&#8217;ll be talking about this podcast:</p>
<blockquote><p>Now I praise you, sisters and brothers, that you remember me in all things, and hold firm the traditions, even as I delivered them to you.</p>
<p>&lt;You say:&gt; ”But I would have you know that the head of every man is Christa, and the head of the woman is the man, and the head of Christa is God. Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head. But every woman praying or prophesying with her head unveiled dishonors her head. For it is one and the same thing as if she were shaved. For if a woman is not covered, let her also be shorn. But if it is shameful for a woman to be shorn or shaved, let her be covered. For a man indeed ought not to have his head covered, because he is the image and radiance of Godde, but the woman is the radiance of the man. For man is not from woman, but woman from man; for neither was man created for the woman, but woman for the man.”</p>
<p>But the woman ought to have liberty over her head because after all she will judge the angels. The point is, neither is the woman independent of the man, nor the man independent of the woman, in the Lord. For as woman came from man, so a man also comes through a woman; but all things are from Godde. Judge for yourselves. “Is it appropriate that a woman pray to Godde unveiled?” Doesn’t even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him, but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her instead of a covering. But if any man seems to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither do Godde’s communities (1 Corinthians 11:2-6, DFV).</p></blockquote>
<div id="attachment_1471" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/mattison.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1471" title="mattison" src="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/mattison-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Mark Mattison</p></div>
<p>Mark is an independent scholar who was the founder and is still a contributor at <a href="http://www.thepaulpage.com/">The Paul Page</a>, which keeps up with all the scholarship coming out on the Apostle Paul (no small task). Mark is also one of the founding members of <a href="http://godde.wordpress.com">The Christian Godde Project</a> and the general editor of <a href="http://godde.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/introducting-the-good-news-according-to-matthew-version-0-1/"><em>The Divine Feminine Version</em> New Testament</a>. Mark and his family live on the wrong side of Lake Michigan in Michigan (key words: lake effect snow) where they get a whole lot more snow than we do on the right side of  Lake Michigan in Chicago.</p>
<p><strong>Podcast: <a class="s3-link" href="http://goddegirl.s3.amazonaws.com/MarkMatthison1Corinthians11.wav">MarkMatthison1Corinthians11.wav</a> </strong></p>
<p>Find out what Paul really said about women keeping silent and not teaching men when you buy <a href="../store/women-who-didnt-shut-up-sit-down/"><em>Women Who Didn’t Shut Up &amp; Sit Down</em></a>. (Hint: Paul wasn&#8217;t talking about all women for all time. He was talking to very specific troublemakers in very specific congregations.)</p>
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<p>The third full length podcast with <a href="http://www.devacoaching.com/">Sandi Amorin</a> will be posted next Monday (10/3)!</p>
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		<title>Geeks and Ghosts: Valentine&#8217;s Day for the rest of us</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>shawna</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You remember the TV show Freaks and Geeks? It had the tagline: &#8220;What High School was like for the rest of us?&#8221; This is what Valentine&#8217;s Day is for the rest of us, who&#8217;s romantic tastes fall on the more&#8230;.macabre and nerdy side of things. I should preface this that for our first date My <a href='http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2011/02/14/geeks-and-ghosts-valentines-day-for-the-rest-of-us/'>[...]</a><p><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2011/02/14/geeks-and-ghosts-valentines-day-for-the-rest-of-us/">Geeks and Ghosts: Valentine&#8217;s Day for the rest of us</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com">Shawna R. B. Atteberry</a></p>
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<p>You remember the TV show <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0193676/">Freaks and Geeks</a>? It had the tagline: &#8220;What High School was like for the rest of us?&#8221; This is what Valentine&#8217;s Day is for the rest of us, who&#8217;s romantic tastes fall on the more&#8230;.macabre and nerdy side of things.</p>
<p>I should preface this that for our first date My Then-Best-Friend-Morping-into-My-Boyfriend took me on <a href="http://www.chicagohauntings.com/">The Haunted Chicago Tour</a>. It was perfect. And even if you&#8217;re not a believer of things that go bump in the night, the tour is worth the money because of all of the weird and macabre and gory Chicago history that you learn on during this 2.5 hours. But I&#8217;m a believer of things that go bump in the night, so I was really hoping to see the monk ghosts who supposedly haunt Hull House. Everyone one else was trying to see Demon Baby up in the second story window while I was wondering around the garden outside of the house praying to see monk ghosts. I should also mention the year before when My Best Friend was trying woo me, so he could become My Boyfriend, he lent me <a href="http://neilgaiman.com/">Neil Gaiman&#8217;s <em>Neverwhere</em> and <em>American Gods</em> to show me he was interested</a>. Our first date fell around his birthday, so I brought along a <em>Anansi&#8217;s Boys</em> for his present, then we went on The Haunted Chicago Tour. That&#8217;s who we are.</p>
<p>February is one brutal month of Chicago, and I got my first taste when I flew up to spend one of the weekends around Valentine&#8217;s Day with The Boyfriend. The highs that weekend were like two degrees. We&#8217;d just gotten together, and hadn&#8217;t seen each for over two weeks, so cuddling for warmth on the couch watching movies sounded romantic (and warm) for both of us. Did we watch <em>Casablanca</em>? <em>Ever After</em>? <em>Sleepless in Seattle</em>. Oh hell no. Here was our &#8220;romantic&#8221; movie line-up: <em>Donnie Darko, Being John Malkovich, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon,</em> and <em>Groudhog Day</em>. We may have watched a couple of Pixar movies because we totally love Pixar. Knowing us: <em>The Incredibles</em> was also on the line-up. We did brave the frigid Chicago weather for a wonderful meal at Gioco&#8217;s. But that&#8217;s not what I remember. What I remember are airplane engines falling out of the sky, people taking over John Malkovich, and Bill Murphy committing suicide and taking Phil with him.</p>
<div class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 330px"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/shawnari/IM000623.jpg" alt="" width="320" height="240" /><p class="wp-caption-text">This picture was NOT taken in February</p></div>
<p>Then there was our first Valentine&#8217;s Day as Husband and Wife. Sometime before February (and yes the weather was brutal), we were watching <a href="http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/mythbusters/">Mythbusters</a>, and Kari was wearing a shirt that said Geek. And Geek was written in Greek letters. I blew out one of The Hubby&#8217;s eardrums by jumping up and down on the couch and yelling and screeching: &#8220;I HAVE TO HAVE THAT SHIRT!&#8221; You see, being the total nerdy dork I am, Greek was my favorite subject in college, and I pursued the M.A. that was almost nothing but Greek and Hebrew. I&#8217;ve called myself a Greek Geek for years. I. HAD. TO. HAVE. THAT. TSHIRT. And guess what The Hubby gave me for Valentine&#8217;s Day? Yeah baby. (I don&#8217;t remember where we ate out at.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2009/02/19/geeks-in-love-belated-valentines-edition/">Another Valentine&#8217;s Day I received a collection of books to teach myself Latin</a> because a couple of weeks before I had mentioned that I love learning dead languages, and I wanted to add Latin to Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic. The Hubby is my biggest supporter when it comes to learning more geeky subjects and becoming a bigger nerd. God, I love that man. (Don&#8217;t remember where we ate at.)</p>
<p>Tonight we&#8217;ll be staying in and watching <em>Being Human</em> and <em>Castle</em>. Because that&#8217;s just who we are. We&#8217;ll be going out to Gioco&#8217;s for dinner on Wednesday because we don&#8217;t want to deal with all the crowds (and next year I probably won&#8217;t remember where we ate at). It&#8217;s who we are. And may be next year we&#8217;ll go on <a href="http://www.chicagohauntings.com/">Haunted Chicago&#8217;s My Bloody Valentine Tour</a> (scroll down about half way down the page).</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon, you know you want to join us.</p>
<p>Now I am off to write a wonderfully macabre Valentine poem for my nerdy macabre Husband.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I post I wrote is up at The Scroll: Who Supported Jesus Out of Their Own Resources? Let me know what you think. Related Posts:Who supported Jesus out of their own means?News and HousekeepingShort hops and other thingsNew Women in Ministry ResourcesThe Woman Who Began the Canonization of Scripture: HuldahPowered by Contextual Related PostsNew post <a href='http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2010/04/22/new-post-up-at-the-scroll/'>[...]</a><p><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2010/04/22/new-post-up-at-the-scroll/">New post up at The Scroll</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com">Shawna R. B. Atteberry</a></p>
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		<title>Does It Really Mean &#8220;Helpmate&#8221;?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had just started working on my thesis in seminary. Tired of being asked if I was going to seminary to be a pastor&#8217;s wife, I decided to write a biblical theology of single women in ministry, showing that Godde&#8217;s calling for a woman was not dependent on her marital state. My thesis advisor, Dr. <a href='http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2010/04/21/does-it-really-mean-helpmate/'>[...]</a><p><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2010/04/21/does-it-really-mean-helpmate/">Does It Really Mean &#8220;Helpmate&#8221;?</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com">Shawna R. B. Atteberry</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/shawnari/GOSSAERT_Jan_Adam_and_Eve.jpg" alt="" width="209" height="320" align="right" hspace="10" />I had just started working on my thesis in seminary. Tired of being asked if I was going to seminary to be a pastor&#8217;s wife, I decided to write <a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/theology-feminism-church-women-bible-ministry-ordination/thesis/">a biblical theology of single women in ministry</a>, showing that Godde&#8217;s calling for a woman was not dependent on her marital state. My thesis advisor, Dr. Joseph Coleson (professor of Old Testament Studies at Nazarene Theological Seminary), looked at my outline and thesis proposal and told me that I needed to add a chapter addressing the Creation Story in Genesis 1:1&#8211;2:25. He thought that I needed to deal with the second creation account found in Gen. 2:5-25, where woman is created to be an <em>ezer cenegdo</em> to the man. If the Hebrew phrase simply meant, &#8220;helper&#8221; then could a woman hold a leadership position in the church, let alone a single woman? But if that isn&#8217;t what <em>ezer cenegdo</em> meant, then that would open up the vistas I needed to write and successfully defend my thesis. Defend, not in front of the professors at seminary, but to defend against those who say woman was created to be a wife and mother, and only a helpmate for her husband. Dr. Coleson said the translators who translated our Bibles into English know that &#8220;helpmate&#8221; is a gross mistranslation of the Hebrew phrase, and he did not see how they could look themselves in the mirror day-to-day keeping that misintepretation in the Bible. It is the only time I saw him angry. So what does this little Hebrew phrase mean?</p>
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<p><em>Ezer</em> is used 20 times in the Old Testament: seventeen times to describe Godde and three times to describe a military ally or aide. &#8220;Help&#8221; or&#8221;helper&#8221; is an adequate translation, but English has different nuances than the Hebrew does. In English &#8220;helper&#8221; implies someone who is learning, or under a person in authority. In the Hebrew &#8220;help&#8221; comes from one who has the power to give help&#8211;it refers to someone in a superior position. That is why Godde can help Israel: Godde has the power to do so. Godde helps Israel because they do not have the power to help themselves.</p>
<p>There is another possible definition for <em>ezer</em>: &#8220;power&#8221; or &#8220;strength.&#8221; Both words are from the same Hebrew root and the nouns would be identical. We see this when<em> ezer</em> is translated as either &#8220;helper&#8221; or &#8220;power/strength&#8221; in the name of the the Judean king, Uzziah. Uzziah means &#8220;Godde is my strength.&#8221; The other spelling of his name, Azariah, means &#8220;Godde is my help.&#8221; There are also poetic passages where &#8220;power&#8221; or &#8220;strength&#8221; are the only logical translations of <em>ezer.</em> It is clear that in some passages the root for <em>ezer </em> is &#8220;helper,&#8221; and in others it is the root for &#8220;power.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Cenegdo</em> is two prepositions: together their literal meaning is &#8220;facing.&#8221; <em>ke</em> is the first preposition, and it means &#8220;like&#8221; or &#8220;corresponding to.&#8221; <em>Negdo</em> means to stand in someone&#8217;s presence. Paired with <em>ke</em> it means to be in the presence of an equal. Together these two prepositions show the relationship between two people: it means they are standing or sitting facing each other, which shows they are equals. <em>Ezer cenegdo</em> does not mean&#8211;or even imply to mean&#8211;that one who is subordinate or inferior in creation or in function. Woman was created to be a power equal to man; an autonomous being that God created so that the man would have someone like him, and equal to him, to share his life with.</p>
<p>The man acknowledged this when he saw the woman. In the second poetic passage in the Bible he proclaimed: &#8220;This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh&#8221;! He knew at last an <em>ezer cenegdo</em> had been brought to him. His speech reinforces the woman as his equal. Unlike the animals she corresponds to him&#8211;she is like him; there is mutuality, unity and solidarity. The man recognized what Godde had done by calling her woman and saying she came from man. The narrator then stated, &#8220;Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and clings to his wife, and they become one flesh&#8221; (Gen. 2:24). This seems odd saying considering that in all Near Eastern cultures it was the woman who left her family to live with her husband and his family. Again we see that one is not above the other. Flying in the face of patriarchal culture, the mandate for marriage is one where the man leaves his family and clings to his wife.</p>
<p>In the beginning men and women were both created in the image of God (Gen. 1:27), and they were created to be equals. They were both given the commands to be fruitful and to rule over the earth (Gen. 1:28-30). The woman was not created to be a subordinate helper to her husband. She was created as an autonomous being; she was a complete human being, just as the man was. Her existence was not dependent on him as his existence was not dependent on her: their existence depended on Godde alone who created them both.</p>
<p>This leads next to the assumption that since woman was made because it was &#8220;not good that the man should be alone&#8221; (Gen. 2:18), and the first marriage covenant comes after man&#8217;s declaration of woman being &#8220;bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh&#8221; (Gen. 2:23), that a woman&#8217;s primary purpose is marriage and that should be her primary goal in life as well. Even though woman was created to alleviate the man&#8217;s loneliness and provide him an<em> ezer cenegdo,</em> men are not raised to believe that marriage should be their primary purpose and goal in life. For men their main purpose is a career. How are single women with a call to ministry to react to the attitude that they are just &#8220;playing ministry&#8221; until Mr. Right comes along? What are married women with a vocation outside of the home or a call to lead in church to do? After all isn&#8217;t Genesis 2 clear that marriage is the God-ordained, and therefore, the &#8220;natural&#8221; state to be in, and that is what woman was created for?</p>
<p>Many women have been counseled to put off their dreams of continuing their education or pursuing a time-consuming career because what happens when they meet their &#8220;perfect husband&#8221; who will be &#8220;Godde&#8217;s perfect plan&#8221; for them? If the women are more educated or make more money how will their potential spouses feel? Women have been told &#8220;you are called to be a wife first,&#8221; based on Genesis 2. Whether or not they want to marry is irrelevant&#8211;they will, that is Godde&#8217;s plan for every woman. Is this what Genesis 2 says?</p>
<p>Could the comment that it is not good for man to be alone simply be an admission that human beings are meant to live in community? Scanzoni and Hardesty note that marriage isn&#8217;t the only relationship possible where human beings are concerned. No one person is self-sufficient&#8211;we are dependent on Godde and on each other. Human beings were created to have relationships with Godde and with one another. We are designed to be in community, and no one person can be whole and complete apart from communion with Godde and one another.</p>
<p>Certainly marriage is a part of Godde&#8217;s design, and marriage is to be the ultimate expression of love, fidelity, and sexuality, but it is just one of many relationships. As Christians we must remember that marriage is not the supreme relationship: the supreme relationship of any believer&#8217;s life is with Godde; our relationship with Godde is what makes us whole and complete.</p>
<p>Although I began this with Genesis, I would like to end with what the New Testament has to say about women and ministry. Christians believe that Jesus Christ came to redeem all people&#8211;both men and women&#8211;and now &#8220;there is no longer Jew or Greek, there is no longer slave or free, there is no longer male and female; for all of you are one in Christ Jesus&#8221; (Gal. 3:28). We also believe &#8220;in [Christ] you have been made complete&#8221; (Col. 2:10, NASB). The doctrine of salvation through Christ means that any hierarchical structure that is a result of the Fall is now done away with (For more on what the Fall meant for women, see <a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2007/02/01/the-fall-and-christian-women/">The Fall and Women</a>). All of us have equal standing before God. Our relationship with God through Christ is what completes us and makes us whole. All women, including single women, do have a place in the church because God created us, redeemed us, and made us to be complete and whole persons in Christ.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2007/04/04/career-women-of-the-bible-apostles-and-prophets/">At Pentecost the Holy Spirit filled all the believers gathered in the Upper Room&#8211;both men and women</a>&#8211;and they went out to the streets proclaiming everything they saw in the last few weeks. It is reasonable to believe that the women who were at the foot of the Cross were in the upper room as well (It is worth noting that only the women could give eye witness account to both the burial and resurrection of Jesus). In the Synoptic Gospels, those women are all identified by their sons, not their husbands. This leads me to believe that they were widowed; they were single. It is possible single women proclaimed the death, resurrection, and ascension of Christ on the day that 3,000 were saved. When the Holy Spirit came, she came to all: men, women, married, single, old, and young alike, which Peter affirmed in his sermon. All that Godde required of those believers was obedience: they stayed in Jerusalem until the Holy Spirit came, and then they all went out and proclaimed what Godde had done. Whether one is married or single, male or female, is irrelevant in the Kingdom of Godde. All that is required is obedience to the call and the will of Godde.</p>
<p><strong>Sources:</strong></p>
<p>Shawna Renee Bound, <a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/theology-feminism-church-women-bible-ministry-ordination/thesis/"><em>Your Daughters Shall Prophesy: A Biblical Theology of Single Women in Ministry</em></a>, unpublished thesis, (© by Shawna Renee Bound 2002), &#8220;Helpmate or Power Equal to Him?&#8221; 11-22.</p>
<p>Joseph Coleson, <a href="http://www.whwomenclergy.org/booklets.htm"><em>Ezer Cenegdo: A Power Like Him, Facing Him as Equal</em></a> (Grantham, PA: Wesleyan/Holiness Women Clergy), 1996.</p>
<p>Loren Cunningham and David Joel Hamilton, <em>Why Not Women : A Biblical Study of Women in Missions, Ministry, and Leadership<img src=">Why Not Women? A Fresh Look at Scripture on Women in Missions, Ministry, and Leadership</a> (</em>Seattle, WA: YWAM Publishing), 2000.*</p>
<p>J Lee. Grady, 10 Lies the Church Tells Women<img src="><em>Ten Lies the Church Tells Women, How the Bible Has Been Misused to Keep Women in Spiritual Bondage</em></a> (Lake Mary, FL: Charisma House), 2000.*</p>
<p>Letha Dawson Scanzoni and Nancy A. Hardesty, <em>All We&#8217;re Meant to Be: Biblical Feminism for Today<img src=">All We&#8217;re Meant to Be: Biblical Feminism for Today</a>,</em> 3rd rev. ed. (Grand Rapids, MI: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Co.), 1992.*</p>
<p>Aida Besançon Spencer, <em>Beyond the Curse: Women Called to Ministry (</em>Peabody, MA: Hendrickson Publishers), 1985.</p>
<p>Phyllis Trible, God and Rhetoric of Sexuality (Overtures to Biblical Theology)<img src="><em>God and the Rhetoric of Sexuality</em></a> (Philadelphia: Fortress Press), 1978.*</p>
<p>All biblical translations are from the <em>New Revised Standard Version</em> unless otherwise noted.</p>
<p>* Affiliate links</p>
<p>This article was originally posted on May 25, 2007.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am used to seeing medieval women saints as nuns. Either they are single or a widow. But last year I discovered a married women saint who lived during the 14th century. March 9 is the feast day of St. Frances of Rome who was a Benedictine oblate. She was also married. An oblate is <a href='http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2010/03/02/womens-history-month-st-frances-of-rome/'>[...]</a><p><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2010/03/02/womens-history-month-st-frances-of-rome/">Women&#8217;s History Month: St Frances of Rome</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com">Shawna R. B. Atteberry</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><img class="alignright" src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/shawnari/AntoniazzoRomano.jpg" alt="" width="320" height="271" />I am used to seeing medieval women saints as nuns. Either they are single or a widow. But last year I discovered a married women saint who lived during the 14th century. March 9 is the feast day of St. Frances of Rome who was a Benedictine oblate. She was also married. An oblate is a lay person who is connected to a Benedictine community and observes the <em>The Rule of St. Benedict</em> in their daily life at home and work. St. Frances founded a lay congregation of women called the Oblates of Mary; they were attached to the church of Santa Maria Nova in Rome. The order she founded is now known as the Oblates of Saint Frances of Rome. In this period of Christianity there were nuns who chose God&#8217;s highest calling and wives who settled for marriage. Rarely have I read of a woman who was both a contemplative and wife. Not to mention a saint.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">After her marriage, [Frances] continued an intense spiritual life of reading, prayer and visiting churches . . . she built a chapel in their palace, visited the sick, gave alms to the poor, and nursed patients in the hospital of Santo Spiritu. The tension she experienced in trying to combine intense devotions with the life of a wealthy Roman matron resulted in a breakdown. After a year of suffering, she was miraculously healed by a vision of St. Alexis.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">From this crisis, Frances learned how to offer the three always interwoven threads of her life to God: first her family life, including her children, household duties, and role as wife. Second her civic life of healer, spiritual director, organizer of almsgiving and charity for the poor of Rome. Finally, her spiritual life with its liturgical and mystical experiences. Interweaving these three threads is characteristic of Benedictine spirituality: just as the <em>Rule</em> counsels the monk to take his brothers into account in every aspect of his life in the monastery, so Frances continuously responded to her family and her city. Like a monk who finds in the enclosure of the monastery not a prison, but a home, she created a sphere of inner freedom within the confines of this dense community.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">. . . [After the death of her mother-in-law], the family unanimously chose Frances to run the household. . . She was seventeen. . . She was thus in charge of a large, wealthy Roman estate, supervising servants and overseeing kitchens, food purchases and harvests. Because of their political sympathies, the family figured prominently as a center for papal support in Rome, and she was in charge of the entertaining associated with their role in the drama of the divided papacy. . .</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Frances longed attracted the attention of women who wanted to give their time, wealth, and energy to the sick and the poor. Now they approached her asking her to give institutional expression to their way of life. They were attracted to the Benedictine order. . . Characteristic of their freedom, the oblates could live either in community or in their homes. . . .The women who followed this path did so freely, unlike the medieval children entrusted as oblates who were unable to choose for themselves. However, like the child oblates, they brought with them monetary funds to build up the common good. (From <em>Benedict in the World, Portraits of Monastic Oblates</em> quoted in <em>Benedictine Daily Prayer</em>.)</p>
<p>You can find out more about from St. Frances at <a href="http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=49">Catholic.org</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Frances_of_Rome">Wikipedia</a>.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Lord God, in Saint Frances you have given us a rare model of both married and religious life. Teach us to serve you with constancy so that we may be able to see and follow you in all circumstances of our daily existence.</p>
<p><strong>Related Posts</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2009/03/07/poetry-daughter-of-mary-magdalene/">International Women’s Day Synchroblog: Daughter of Mary Magdalene</a><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2009/11/17/woman-of-the-week-hilda-of-whitby/"><br />
Hilda of Whitby</a></p>
<p>(Originally published March 13, 2009.)</p>
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		<title>Company Girl Coffee: Twas the Week Before Christmas</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Happy Friday Company Girls! The coffee is on and hot! Dreaming in the New Year If it wasn&#8217;t for Home Sanctuary I don&#8217;t know how neglected this poor little blog would be. But the reason I haven&#8217;t written much is that I&#8217;m thinking and dreaming and planning for the upcoming year. I&#8217;m dreaming what I <a href='http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2009/12/18/company-girl-coffee-twas-the-week-before-christmas/'>[...]</a><p><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2009/12/18/company-girl-coffee-twas-the-week-before-christmas/">Company Girl Coffee: Twas the Week Before Christmas</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com">Shawna R. B. Atteberry</a></p>
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<h2>Dreaming in the New Year</h2>
<p>If it wasn&#8217;t for <a href="http://www.homesanctuary.com/rachelanne">Home Sanctuary</a> I don&#8217;t know how neglected this poor little blog would be. But the reason I haven&#8217;t written much is that I&#8217;m thinking and dreaming and planning for the upcoming year. I&#8217;m dreaming what I want my business to become and who My Right People are and how much I want to help the people who come to me. So in the busyness of the week of getting to head out to see my family in Oklahoma, I&#8217;ve been dreaming and planning and spinning possible futures in the back of my head. What are <em>Right People</em>? It&#8217;s a concept <a href="http://www.fluentself.com">Havi at <em>The Fluent Self</em></a> (shes @havi on Twitter) came up with (and I will let her explain):</p>
<h2 style="padding-left: 30px;">Thought 2: Your stuff doesn’t have to be helpful for everyone.</h2>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">It doesn’t.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">It just needs to be helpful for the people who <em>need it in that form in that moment</em>.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Those are your Right People. The ones who need <em>your</em> voice.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Anyone who doesn’t find it helpful? Probably <em>not</em> one of your Right People. Or not ready yet.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">That person can go. Be there for the ones who <em>do</em> need what you have to say.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I really want to focus in on this year: My Right People instead of throwing stuff all over the wall and seeing what sticks. I want to envision My Right People and help them and make this a safe place for them. So that&#8217;s whay I&#8217;ve been doing business wise. You can find out more about Right people <a href="http://www.fluentself.com/blog/biggification/ask-havi-24-what-if-my-stuff-is-boring-and-useless/">here</a> and <a href="http://www.fluentself.com/blog/biggification/re-explaining-right-people/">here</a>.</p>
<h2><strong>We Loved Our Presents!</strong></h2>
<p>Let me preface this section by saying that The Hubby and I always travel at Christmas to see family. This year we&#8217;re heading to Oklahoma to see mine. Before we go we have our own Christmas and open our presents. So we always open our presents from each other early. They all came in this week and were wrapped, so we opened them Wednesday. Actually the really, really cool present I got My Hubby came in that day, and I couldn&#8217;t wait to see what he thought of it! I bought him this beautiful singing bowl from <a href="http://www.sankofasong.com/">Fabeku Fatunmise at Sankofa Song</a> whom I met on Twitter (he&#8217;s @fabeku). The Hubby loved it! And the bowl sings so beautifully! Tracy really got the hang of it last night and all of these gorgeous tones were washing over me. So glad I met Fabeku and learned about his sound healing ministry! He also included his CD, which I am going to have to wrestle out of The Hubby&#8217;s hands so I can listen it. He also loved his other gifts: Buckley Balls from <a href="http://www.thinkgeek.com">Think Geek</a>, and a space-age pen that writes underwater and in zero gravity. This pen has been going up with the astronauts since 1965. I love My Geek.</p>
<p>I will preface my gifts with I LOVE TO COOK. When you&#8217;re a person who LOVES TO COOK, pots and pans that are on their last leg and about to give up the ghost are very depressing. So I&#8217;d dropped a hint or two about new pots and pans. You should see them Company Girls. They are beautiful: triply, with one of the triplies being stainless steel. The triply insures they heat evenly and hold the heat. They are bright and shiny; they are begging to be cooked in. I finally have a 5 quart Dutch Oven! (My previous set claimed a Dutch Oven but&#8230;.um&#8230;..no.)  Squeee! I am so in love. I also adore my other gift. After we first married, Tracy would leave little red bows hidden all over the place for me to find. Mainly around coffee stuff so he knew I would find it. <img src='http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  But then the red bows start collecting up and you don&#8217;t know what to do with them. My Honey came up with a solution; my second gift: The Red Bow Tree. It&#8217;s a beauitful fall resin tree with a little snow on the branches. So now when red bows start appearing in expected and unexpected places I have a place to put them. I always thought I never had a sappy romantic bone in my body, then My Hubby came along. Aah, the sap that man has turned me into. But it&#8217;s okay because he buys me kitchen stuff. <img src='http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<h2>Getting ready to leave</h2>
<p>I&#8217;ve ran errands most of the week to get ready to leave: bank, Target, The UPS Store, library, etc. I need to go to the grocery store today to pick up a couple of items we&#8217;ll need over the weekend and clean house. I don&#8217;t want the cat sitter to be walking into a mess. We take off to OK next week, and I won&#8217;t have internet connection, but that&#8217;s okay because I will have a boatload of holiday baking to do. My Mom doesn&#8217;t like to bake that much, but I love to, and since we&#8217;re coming in early, I am going to do all the Christmas baking! Whoo-hoo! Then there&#8217;s all the eating, opening presents, eating, catching up with everybody, eating: you know how it goes.</p>
<p>I wish all of you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!</p>
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		<title>The So-called &#8220;Biblical&#8221; Marry a Strong-ER Christian Man Myth</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I regularly do searches on Twitter to see what people are talking about within the world of Christiandom, especially when it comes to women. Some form of this tweet pops up on a regular basis: If u r a strong Christian woman, marry a strong-ER Christian man or you&#8217;ll be frustrated. (I take no responsibility <a href='http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2009/10/30/the-so-called-biblical-marry-a-strong-er-christian-husband-myth/'>[...]</a><p><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2009/10/30/the-so-called-biblical-marry-a-strong-er-christian-husband-myth/">The So-called &#8220;Biblical&#8221; Marry a Strong-ER Christian Man Myth</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com">Shawna R. B. Atteberry</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>I regularly do searches on <a href="http://twitter.com">Twitter</a> to see what people are talking about within the world of Christiandom, especially when it comes to women. Some form of this tweet pops up on a regular basis:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">If u r a strong Christian woman, marry a strong-ER Christian man or you&#8217;ll be frustrated. (I take no responsibility for the horrible grammar.)</p>
<p>I have a confession to make:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Hello, my name is Shawna (Everyone: Hello Shawna!) I am a strong  Christian woman who did NOT marry a strong-ER Christian man. I married the man that I am a power equal to.</p>
<p>Everyone: Huh?</p>
<p>I married the man that I am a power equal to, which happens to be the literal translation of the phrase in Genesis 2 that is normally mistranslated as &#8220;helpmate.&#8221; In Genesis 2:18 Godde says, &#8220;I will make him an help meet for him.&#8221; And yes readers that is the good ole King James Version because the KJV is the only translation to translate <em>ezer cenegdo</em> correctly. Notice it does not say help<em>mate. </em>It says help <em>meet</em>. In Old English meet means equal. Godde will make the human a help equal to him. Woman was created to be an equal. Normally when <em>ezer </em>(help) is used it refers to Godde. Someone or the entire nation of Israel is calling on God to come and help them. Help is not a term of subordination, not if the same word is used to describe Godde. <em>Ezer</em> has another meaning: power. Both help and power come from the same root in Hebrew. So <em>ezer </em>can be translated as either help or power: the reason you can help someone is because you have to power to do so. The second  part of the phrase, <em>cenegdo</em> means to stand face-to-face, or stand as equals. The literal translation of <em>ezer cenegdo</em> is a help/power equal to. Woman was created to be a help/power equal to man.</p>
<p>This totally changed my view of what I was looking for in a husband. Actually it didn&#8217;t change it. I just hadn&#8217;t had the words to describe what I wanted before. I always planned on marrying an equal; an equal who respected me and wholly supported me in what Godde called me to do. Now I knew who I was looking for: I was looking for the man that I was a power equal to. And I knew he&#8217;d be quite a man. I&#8217;m one heck of a force of nature to be reckoned with. It turns out the power I am equal to was right under my nose: one of my best friends. After eight years of being friends, we married, and he is the power that I am equal to. I am very happy that I did not marry someone stronger than me spiritually. I married someone who was equal with me spiritually. As far as I&#8217;m concerned that&#8217;s the only way to go.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not the only one to think so. Priscialla and Aquila thought that too. Priscilla and Aquila are always mentioned together, and most of the time Priscilla&#8217;s name comes first in Acts and in Paul&#8217;s letters. This was unheard of that time. Wives&#8217; names NEVER came before their husbands&#8217; names at that time, in that culture. As far as Priscilla and Aquila, Paul, and Luke were concerned, Priscilla was not the property of Aquila, she was his <em>ezer cenegdo</em>, his equal. Priscilla and Aquila taught Apollos together, they made tents together, and they pastored home churches together. Priscilla was the power equal to Aquila. Considering they planted churches in at least 3 cities across the Roman Empire (including Rome), I&#8217;d say that being equals worked out pretty well for them.</p>
<p>In other words, you as a Christian woman, will not be frustrated if you do not marry a man who is spiritually stronger than you. That&#8217;s not who you are suppossed to marry. You&#8217;re supposed to marry the man that you are a power equal to. Or anyway that&#8217;s what Genesis says and that&#8217;s what Priscilla and Aquila lived out. I&#8217;m pretty happy with the arrangement myself.</p>
<p>Related Posts:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2010/04/21/does-it-really-mean-helpmate/">Does It Really Mean &#8220;Helpmate&#8221;?<br />
</a><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2007/05/01/career-women-of-the-bible-teachers-elders-and-coworkers/">Career Women of the Bible: Teachers, Elders and Co-workers</a></p>
<p>(On Twitter I&#8217;m <a href="http://www.twitter.com/shawnaatteberry">@shawnaatteberry</a>.)</p>
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		<title>Catherine Clark Kroeger: Thou Shalt Not Tempt the Lord Thy God</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week&#8217;s article in Christians for Biblical Equality&#8217;s newsletter, Arise! is written by Catherine Clark Kroger. Catherine has worked for years to bring attention to domestic violence in the church and worked at educating churches and pastors about domestic violence and how to help both the victims and abusers. &#8220;Thou Shalt Not Tempt the Lord <a href='http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2009/10/10/catherine-clark-kroeger-thou-shalt-not-tempt-the-lord-thy-god/'>[...]</a><p><a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com/2009/10/10/catherine-clark-kroeger-thou-shalt-not-tempt-the-lord-thy-god/">Catherine Clark Kroeger: Thou Shalt Not Tempt the Lord Thy God</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.shawnaatteberry.com">Shawna R. B. Atteberry</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>This week&#8217;s article in <a href="http://cbeinternational.org">Christians for Biblical Equality&#8217;s</a> newsletter, <a href="http://campaign.constantcontact.com/render?v=0019GPJ5JMZh1ZBuSfNzR9qI3bAqA_kOU-oMOoCIfoXaFv5xx7vRk5vxjJ3nR8IDcaj0dMYm0x9myTN-eYVzXLuk1vxKnotv6iR0nqv7ruID5ca71Ew_nl1MQ%3D%3D"><em>Arise!</em></a> is written by Catherine Clark Kroger. Catherine has worked for years to bring attention to domestic violence in the church and worked at educating churches and pastors about domestic violence and how to help both the victims and abusers.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">&#8220;Thou Shalt Not Tempt the Lord Thy God&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I am overcome with joy because of your unfailing love, for you have seen my troubles, and you care about the anguish of my soul. You have not handed me over to my enemy but have set me in a safe place&#8221; (Psalm 31:7-8, NLT).</p>
<p>When I answered the telephone, I found myself listening to a weeping woman. Between sobs she explained that every three weeks or so her abusive husband strangles her into unconsciousness. Though a professing Christian, he suffocates her with pillows, locks her in closets, and leaves her in terror for her life. She has turned for help to several pastors who call the couple into their office for joint counseling. I explained that couples’ counseling is inadvisable in situations of abuse, and she acknowledged that things were always worse at home after a counseling session.</p>
<p>She has come to realize the danger of her situation and was prepared to leave until a Christian friend told her that she must not break the covenant that she made at the marriage altar and must believe that God would work a miracle of transformation in her husband. I pointed out that her husband was the one who had broken the covenant promise to love and cherish her. A covenant is a solemn agreement between two parties, both of whom must abide by their promises. If one party refuses to honor the agreement, the covenant becomes null and void.</p>
<p>But this victim, who desired above all things to do God’s will, had been told that she must give the Lord enough time to change her abuser, even if that meant remaining in a life-threatening situation. I asked if she remembered the temptation of Jesus when Satan took him to the top of the pinnacle in the temple. Cleverly selecting a Bible verse, the devil urged Christ to throw himself down so that angels would bear him up and keep him from danger. But Jesus staunchly refused to risk his life in the expectation that God would perform a supernatural act. He responded “It is written ‘Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God’.” It was not a question of who could quote the best Bible verse but who could honor God and respect the laws of the natural universe.</p>
<p>Jesus refused to defy the force of gravity and put God on the spot for a dramatic intervention. We should not expect God to provide protection when we have taken unreasonable risks that could have been avoided. Certainly the advice provided by well-meaning Christians did not consider this victim’s safety a paramount issue. More than that, it did not consider the welfare of the abusive husband. His dangerous conduct may well have been intended to intimidate his spouse rather than to cause her actual harm, but how very easily his conduct might have escalated one step further into a terrible crime! The conduct is already very wicked and totally inconsistent with God’s purposes for a Christian family.</p>
<p>Separation would provide an environment that would be safer for both victim and perpetrator. A time apart would enable each partner to address some of the other issues that must be faced. The Bible tells us to flee temptation rather than continuing to dwell where we are most likely to fall into sin. We pray “deliver us from evil” but we also need to remove ourselves from situations or circumstances that can lead us into grievous sin and harm.</p>
<p>Indeed, David praised God for having restrained him from acting on his murderous intentions (1 Sam. 25:26, 32-34, 39) and prayed “Keep back thy servant from presumptuous sins” (Ps. 19:13; see also 51; 119:29; 120:2; 139:12-14; 141:3-4). Four times the Lord exhorted his followers to pray that they would not fall into temptation, (Matt. 2:41; Mark 14:36; Luke 22:40, 46), and he himself prayed that his own would be kept from evil (John 17:15).</p>
<p>God is able to keep us from falling (2 Thess. 3:3; Jude 24), but let us not tempt the Lord our God, nor place others where temptation may assail them. Rather let us look for his place of safety and peace.</p>
<p>Catherine Kroeger</p>
<p>Catherine Clark Kroeger (Ph.D., University of Minnesota)  is an adjunct associate professor of classical and ministry studies at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. She is an author, president emerita of Christians for Biblical Equality, and president of Peace and Safety in the Christian Home (PASCH).</p>
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